Become Legend: The Crucible Episode 5 – Hand Cannon Damage Dropoff


INTRO


Hello Guardians. Gboccia here with a video covering Hand Cannon damage drop off since the most recent 2.5.0.2 patch. There have been some posts regarding this and I wanted to demonstrate the damage with multiple guns at multiple ranges, providing some charts for ease of use and understanding. Lets be real though, some of you guys want the numbers so I'll provide them as well just be warned it is a lot of numbers.

Crucible Episode 5 – Hand Cannon Damage Dropoff

Google Spreadsheet of Data


SHOW ME THE GUNS!


Alright, alright, lets talk about them guns!

You Want One of These

Let's start off with the Eyasluna. I tested with Hammerforged, Rifled Barrel, Smallbore, and Rangefinder separately. Checking the chart you'll instantly notice that Rifled Barrel and Rangefinder (the blue line) does better on dropoff then the other perks. It adds the most range and lets the gun reach the Hand Cannon max range of 62. The important thing to note here is that Rangefinder damage dropoff (the green line) is better than Smallbore, Hammer Forged, and even Rifled Barrel alone.

Eyasluna Damage Chart

Distance Barrel Perk 1 Perk 2 Range Impact HS Damage BS Damage
27 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel 62 81 86 57
30 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel 62 81 80 53
35 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel 62 81 62 41
40 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel 62 81 45 29
45 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel 62 81 31 21
46+ SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel 62 81 29 19
30 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 62 81 86 57
35 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 62 81 73 49
40 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 62 81 56 39
45 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 62 81 42 28
49 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 62 81 31 21
50+ SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 62 81 29 19
27 SteadyHand IS Range Finder 38 81 86 57
30 SteadyHand IS Range Finder 38 81 80 52
35 SteadyHand IS Range Finder 38 81 66 44
40 SteadyHand IS Range Finder 38 81 52 35
45 SteadyHand IS Range Finder 38 81 38 26
48 SteadyHand IS Range Finder 38 81 30 20
49+ SteadyHand IS Range Finder 38 81 29 19
27 SteadyHand IS Hammer Forged 50 81 86 57
30 SteadyHand IS Hammer Forged 50 81 77 51
35 SteadyHand IS Hammer Forged 50 81 62 40
40 SteadyHand IS Hammer Forged 50 81 45 30
45 SteadyHand IS Hammer Forged 50 81 30 20
46+ SteadyHand IS Hammer Forged 50 81 29 19
26 SteadyHand IS Smallbore 47 81 86 57
30 SteadyHand IS Smallbore 47 81 73 49
35 SteadyHand IS Smallbore 47 81 58 39
40 SteadyHand IS Smallbore 47 81 42 28
44 SteadyHand IS Smallbore 47 81 30 20
45+ SteadyHand IS Smallbore 47 81 29 19

Compared to a similar gun, the Palindrome we'll test shows Rifled Barrel and Rangefinder, this is max range + little more. Here's a quick look at the chart, the curve is the same as the Eyasluna with Rifled Barrel and Rangefinder.

Palindrome Damage Chart

Distance Barrel Perk 1 Perk 2 Range Impact HS Damage BS Damage
30 TrueSight IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 62 81 86 57
35 TrueSight IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 62 81 73 49
40 TrueSight IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 62 81 56 39
45 TrueSight IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 62 81 42 28
49 TrueSight IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 62 81 31 21
50+ TrueSight IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 62 81 29 19

Yet another similar and popular gun choice, though much harder to obtain… the Imago Loop. It has the highest base range of 40 among the other weapons in it's archetype. Without a range perk or Rangefinder though, the damage dropoff is huge and it becomes hard to argue using the gun without either.

Imago Loop Damage Chart

Distance Barrel Perk 1 Perk 2 Range Impact HS Damage BS Damage
27 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel 62 81 86 57
30 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel 62 81 80 53
35 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel 62 81 62 41
40 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel 62 81 45 29
45 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel 62 81 31 21
46 SteadyHand IS Rifled Barrel 62 81 29 19
25 SteadyHand IS 40 81 86 57
30 SteadyHand IS 40 81 71 48
35 SteadyHand IS 40 81 56 37
40 SteadyHand IS 40 81 41 27
43 SteadyHand IS 40 81 33 22
44+ SteadyHand IS 40 81 29 19
But the accuracy!

So let's do a quick accuracy test. For this test the Eyasluna has a range of 38, Palindrome at 62, and Imago Loop at 40. Shots are fired from minimum damage range, so who wins in this situation. Range wins. Without range you become very inaccurate, Rangefinder is great for insuring damage dropoff but without range you can't hit the target consistently. Take a look at The Devil You Know, 25 base range but with Rifled Barrel we bump it up to 49. Even at a very long distance of almost 50m the gun can be more accurate than the Eyasluna or Imago Loop simply because we have a range perk. Range wins for accuracy every single time.

The Devil You Know Damage Chart

Distance Barrel Perk 1 Perk 2 Range Impact HS Damage BS Damage
28 TrueSight IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 49 81 86 57
30 TrueSight IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 49 81 81 54
35 TrueSight IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 49 81 67 45
40 TrueSight IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 49 81 54 36
45 TrueSight IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 49 81 38 26
48 TrueSight IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 49 81 30 20
49+ TrueSight IS Rifled Barrel Range Finder 49 81 29 19
26 TrueSight IS Explosive Rounds Range Finder 25 81 57 + 28 +
30 TrueSight IS Explosive Rounds Range Finder 25 81 51 + 25 +
35 TrueSight IS Explosive Rounds Range Finder 25 81 41 + 21 +
40 TrueSight IS Explosive Rounds Range Finder 25 81 33 + 17 +
45 TrueSight IS Explosive Rounds Range Finder 25 81 24 + 12 +
48 TrueSight IS Explosive Rounds Range Finder 25 81 19 + 10 +
26 TrueSight IS Range Finder 25 81 86 57
30 TrueSight IS Range Finder 25 81 74 50
35 TrueSight IS Range Finder 25 81 62 41
40 TrueSight IS Range Finder 25 81 49 33
45 TrueSight IS Range Finder 25 81 37 25
48 TrueSight IS Range Finder 25 81 30 20
49+ TrueSight IS Range Finder 25 81 29 19
Mr Torgue All The Things?

Explosive Rounds is a fun perk to me, it creates an annoying flinch or flash for the enemy and the damage dropoff isn't as harsh because of the guaranteed explosive damage regardless of range. You can even shoot something near the enemy and get the explosive damage to count! As we consult the charts it should be obvious that Explosive Rounds is viable from a damage dropoff perspective especially past 35 meters, but without a range perk (which normally is in the same column) you can't guarantee accuracy unfortunately.


BUT WHAT ABOUT EXOTICS?


Are they worth using over a Legendary?

The Battle Continues

Let's shift over to some Exotic Weapons. The Last Word and Thorn at different ranges. It's really a simple thing to analyze, use the range perks here. There is no real advantage to the slightly extra damage and you want to be able to hit the target so take the range and accuracy where you can get it!

The Last Word Damage Chart

Distance Barrel Perk 1 Perk 2 Range Impact HS Damage BS Damage
21 Soft Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 10 68 74 49
25 Soft Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 10 68 66 44
30 Soft Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 10 68 55 37
35 Soft Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 10 68 43 29
40 Soft Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 10 68 32 22
42 Soft Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 10 68 26 18
43+ Soft Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 10 68 25 17
20 Aggressive Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 4 71 81 54
25 Aggressive Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 4 71 70 47
30 Aggressive Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 4 71 58 39
35 Aggressive Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 4 71 44 29
40 Aggressive Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 4 71 33 22
43 Aggressive Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 4 71 27 18
44+ Aggressive Ballistics High Caliber Rounds 4 71 25 17

Thorn Damage Chart

Distance Barrel Perk 1 Perk 2 Range Impact HS Damage BS Damage
26 Accurized Ballistics Send It 50 70 79 53
30 Accurized Ballistics Send It 50 70 68 46
35 Accurized Ballistics Send It 50 70 54 35
40 Accurized Ballistics Send It 50 70 39 26
44 Accurized Ballistics Send It 50 70 28 19
45+ Accurized Ballistics Send It 50 70 27 18
23 Accurized Ballistics 32 70 79 53
25 Accurized Ballistics 32 70 77 51
30 Accurized Ballistics 32 70 63 42
35 Accurized Ballistics 32 70 49 33
40 Accurized Ballistics 32 70 36 24
43 Accurized Ballistics 32 70 28 19
44+ Accurized Ballistics 32 70 27 18
A Curse and a Daddy

Lastly, The First Curse is an incredibly fun gun to use in both PvE and The Crucible. Using the weapon can be a bit difficult but if you trigger The First Curse Exotic Perk you'll instantly notice it's very accurate and the range becomes insane. You gain almost 10m before you get any damage dropoff!

The First Curse Damage Chart

Distance Barrel Perk 1 Perk 2 Range Impact HS Damage BS Damage
35 Smooth Ballistics The First Curse 53 94 95 64
40 Smooth Ballistics The First Curse 53 94 71 49
45 Smooth Ballistics The First Curse 53 94 44 29
49 Smooth Ballistics The First Curse 53 94 32 22
26 Smooth Ballistics 53 94 95 64
30 Smooth Ballistics 53 94 82 54
35 Smooth Ballistics 53 94 64 43
40 Smooth Ballistics 53 94 47 31
44 Smooth Ballistics 53 94 35 23
45+ Smooth Ballistics 53 94 32 22

Not shown in the video is some data on the Hawk-papi himself (Hawkmoon identifies as a badass dude) which really suffers from the same problem

Hawkmoon Damage Chart

Distance Barrel Perk 1 Perk 2 Range Impact HS Damage BS Damage
26 Accurized Ballistics Hammer Forged 47 82 88 59
30 Accurized Ballistics Hammer Forged 47 82 76 50
35 Accurized Ballistics Hammer Forged 47 82 59 40
40 Accurized Ballistics Hammer Forged 47 82 44 29
44 Accurized Ballistics Hammer Forged 47 82 31 20
45+ Accurized Ballistics Hammer Forged 47 82 30 19
24 Accurized Ballistics Quickdraw 35 82 88 59
25 Accurized Ballistics Quickdraw 35 82 87 58
30 Accurized Ballistics Quickdraw 35 82 70 47
35 Accurized Ballistics Quickdraw 35 82 56 38
40 Accurized Ballistics Quickdraw 35 82 41 27
43 Accurized Ballistics Quickdraw 35 82 31 20
44+ Accurized Ballistics Quickdraw 35 82 30 19

OUTRO


And that's going to do it for this episode Guardians, but now that you're armed with this knowledge about Hand Cannons you too can Become Legend.

  • All Gun Charts – Please show some love to my friend and clanmate /u/JBH613. He made all of the charts and does all of my artwork, phenomenal dude and does it all for free so thank him for the awesome charts!

In addition to these snipits I've been putting out some detailed Crucible videos and Trials of Osiris guides:

Lastly, please check the other super good posts about Hand Cannons here:

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